I tried 0402 and they are almost easier to solder than 0603 – with hot air under a USB microscope. 😬 Now my 0201 books arrived from Ali. Next I need a PCB for them…
I’ve done a solder challenge where I hand-soldered one of those. I managed to do it, but I think I lost three of them while doing so. Once they’re on the soldering mat they’re gone, since they’re smaller than the specks of dust on it.
I was working on a project where someone wanted a very small point-source of light for an experiment. So I spent several sessions soldering the finest magnet wire I could find onto two dozen 01005 green LEDs as flying leads. That was a fun adventure.
Confirmed my theory that to have the steadiest hands I need to have a decent coffee mid morning then have a pint of beer at lunchtime. Then there’s a window from about 2 till 4 where the hands are the steadiest 🙂
this is why I put both metric and imperial names in my footprints, so nobody confuses them e.g. 1005[0402]_CAP
problem comes when the metric names are called the same as the larger package imperial ones: e.g. 0603[0201]_CAP. before I started this, I too ended up with a strip of what I through would be 0603 imperial sized parts, but they were 0603 metric like yours.
You’d think with today’s super sophisticated machine learning stuff they’d have a way to detect that you are a home gamer and have no business ordering these. Then they’d show you some kind of “dude, this is really small, are you sure you want this?” message.
We use these all the time at work inside RF modules. Including hand soldering for tuning. But that’s with a hot air solder station. Can’t imagine otherwise.
In rare cases we go down to 008004. That’s 0.25 x 0.125 mm.
All that is to say… we have very talented techs working at our company 🙂
On a serious note, it’s near impossible to solder those using an iron. You have to have a good hot air station, only problem air flow keep blowing those guys away. And when they’re gone, you simply don’t look for them because you will not find them.
I figured out a strategy where drenching the entire PCB with flux forces the tiny components to stick so you just guide them with your tweezers instead of trying to pick them up.
I absolutely don’t recommend this level of micro soldering to impatient people, or just in general if you’re just doing a project. Just pick human friendly component sizes.
I can hand solder down to 0603 unaided and 0402 with magnification, but won’t go smaller than 0805 when designing because I do not need to put myself through any additional hassle just to save a few square millimeters of PCB area on a board that doesn’t require super-high parts density.
We use 01005 size components all the time in my industry (consumer electronics). The solder pads are also super tiny, so we can use thinner stencils and get higher component density and thinner finished board height.
And given the right microscope and soldering tools (like JBC tools) they’re actually not thaaaat insane to hand solder.
I actually soldered one of these onto 0402 pads using a solder bridge and a USB microscope. It worked well enough to flash an STM32 and lasted into the following week of testing before the replacement parts arrived.
I still don’t understand why these exist as discrete parts. Wouldn’t they get even better density if they just wire bonded them in 3D right in the IC packages? Like, if you need 500 of these… And EVERY design with those chips needs those same 500…. can we maybe find a better way by now that’s a bit more repairable by normal repair techs without cyborg hands?
super smol, dont overload then id say
Good luck soldering those 🙂
Anyone knows how PnP machines even handle these?
I’d like to see you hand solder them on something XD
IPhone logic boards use this size I believe.
What is this? A capacitor for ants? How can we be expected to teach children to learn how to solder… if they can’t even see it?
I don’t wanna hear your excuses! The capacitor has to be at least… three times bigger than this!
I tried 0402 and they are almost easier to solder than 0603 – with hot air under a USB microscope. 😬 Now my 0201 books arrived from Ali. Next I need a PCB for them…
I’ve done a solder challenge where I hand-soldered one of those. I managed to do it, but I think I lost three of them while doing so. Once they’re on the soldering mat they’re gone, since they’re smaller than the specks of dust on it.
I was working on a project where someone wanted a very small point-source of light for an experiment. So I spent several sessions soldering the finest magnet wire I could find onto two dozen 01005 green LEDs as flying leads. That was a fun adventure.
Confirmed my theory that to have the steadiest hands I need to have a decent coffee mid morning then have a pint of beer at lunchtime. Then there’s a window from about 2 till 4 where the hands are the steadiest 🙂
For me they still don’t exist. I have to see it to believe it.
What are these? Capacitors for ants?
I’m assuming these caps met the capacitance and voltage rating requirement for your design? That is the amazing part.
0.1uF 4V 01005 capacitor: [https://www.digikey.co.uk/product-detail/en/taiyo-yuden/AMK042BJ104KC-W/587-AMK042BJ104KC-WDKR-ND/14317443](https://www.digikey.co.uk/product-detail/en/taiyo-yuden/AMK042BJ104KC-W/587-AMK042BJ104KC-WDKR-ND/14317443)
Where is the capacitor?
As someone who repairs iPhone for a living, welcome to my World 😅
A capacitor so small you can snort it
Cool! you can make your own vaccine!
/s
To show how tiny these really are, [check this graphic out.](http://pcb.iconnect007.com/articlefiles/3235-ComponentComparison40c.jpg)
We call those “salt and pepper caps”
this is why I put both metric and imperial names in my footprints, so nobody confuses them e.g. 1005[0402]_CAP
problem comes when the metric names are called the same as the larger package imperial ones: e.g. 0603[0201]_CAP. before I started this, I too ended up with a strip of what I through would be 0603 imperial sized parts, but they were 0603 metric like yours.
You’d think with today’s super sophisticated machine learning stuff they’d have a way to detect that you are a home gamer and have no business ordering these. Then they’d show you some kind of “dude, this is really small, are you sure you want this?” message.
We use these all the time at work inside RF modules. Including hand soldering for tuning. But that’s with a hot air solder station. Can’t imagine otherwise.
In rare cases we go down to 008004. That’s 0.25 x 0.125 mm.
All that is to say… we have very talented techs working at our company 🙂
You have started dust collection 😃
And they said they couldn’t fit microchips into a syringe
/s
Capacitors for ants.
On a serious note, it’s near impossible to solder those using an iron. You have to have a good hot air station, only problem air flow keep blowing those guys away. And when they’re gone, you simply don’t look for them because you will not find them.
I figured out a strategy where drenching the entire PCB with flux forces the tiny components to stick so you just guide them with your tweezers instead of trying to pick them up.
I absolutely don’t recommend this level of micro soldering to impatient people, or just in general if you’re just doing a project. Just pick human friendly component sizes.
Sorry to break it to ya buddy, but that’s just the discarded edges from a PrintShopPro banner.
You should get a refund.
😂
*it doesn’t look like anything to me*
Careful you don’t accidentally try and solder a stray fly turd onto your pcb when working with these things!!
I can hand solder down to 0603 unaided and 0402 with magnification, but won’t go smaller than 0805 when designing because I do not need to put myself through any additional hassle just to save a few square millimeters of PCB area on a board that doesn’t require super-high parts density.
Just wait until you see 008004 size =]
We use 01005 size components all the time in my industry (consumer electronics). The solder pads are also super tiny, so we can use thinner stencils and get higher component density and thinner finished board height.
And given the right microscope and soldering tools (like JBC tools) they’re actually not thaaaat insane to hand solder.
Small enough to be injected through a vaccination needle?
ACHOO
…whoops.
How many smd passive components have *you* inhaled today?
I actually soldered one of these onto 0402 pads using a solder bridge and a USB microscope. It worked well enough to flash an STM32 and lasted into the following week of testing before the replacement parts arrived.
Wait till you see 08004s
I still don’t understand why these exist as discrete parts. Wouldn’t they get even better density if they just wire bonded them in 3D right in the IC packages? Like, if you need 500 of these… And EVERY design with those chips needs those same 500…. can we maybe find a better way by now that’s a bit more repairable by normal repair techs without cyborg hands?
I bet they sound like pop rocks if you hit them with a 9V
Post on Facebook that the government accidentally shipped you the microchips that are supposed to go in vaccines. Freak the people out!
This looks like an intern’s worst nightmare.
For IPC solder certification we had to hand solder baby caps/resistors that made the tip of a toothpick look like a baseball bat….it was rough.